Sorry Alistair...don't mean to be so picky. But, OK, you're in Brazil, you say social work doesn't change anything, or doesn't change much, or doesn't change enough. Whatever. What would say about the Movimento dos Trabalhadores Rurais Sem Terra? From my vantage point of total ignorance up here in New England, it sounds like the largest populist uprising in the world today...and yet they're totally unknown in the North. Would they meet your standards of 'changing the system'? They certainly meet mine...of course Sem is not 'social work', it's revolution. I guess what I object to is the idea that social work has some sort of ceiling beyond which it durst not try to change anything...social work should *be* revolutionary, at least in terms of long-term goals.