Well, you see Nightowl, this here thread is a classic example of "thread creep" in action. I mean to say Cats started talking bout Max, that went to offensive behavior on the Mudcat, then a discussion of the dangers of being coy and inoffensive ad nauseum . Thread Creep,,,it's the thing that gets me to read threads like "Norwegian Childrens Songs" even though I have absolutely no interest in that particular subject. If it generates 12 posts or so, you can almost bet they are talking about Polynesian Scrimshaw, or the relative merits of Martin versus Takamine guitars, or how to track a possum using a bent hickory stick, by the time you get there.