Some great suggestions folks; thanks. It's a bit ironic. I agree that quietly explaining to the guy that what he does is pissing me off is the way to go. And you want to be civil about it. But bringing it up apart from sessions is tough to do. My fear is that I am gonna let him have it at a session some day. Hopefully a good opportunity will present itself before then. Where do these people get the jam though? It's amazing to hear there are so many of them out there. I thought this guy was one of a kind. They're like frustrated band leaders or something. SB