Dick and Susan - Oh great, it was your turning up at Graham Moore's workshop on Internet resources at Whitby 2000 that alerted me to the existence of the Mudcat Cafe, and my being escorted to the Ducks' barbecue at Whitby 2001 that accounted for my subscribing to Mudcat. And I'm going back to Whitby this year, so hope to bump into you both and Joe and Christina.Kitty