Why do she and HC arouse contempt? Because they are vile, that is why. It has nothing to do with being strong. Strength alone does not bring contempt. It might bring other things but not contempt. Strength with virtue brings great respect from those whose opinions should matter. We haven't begun to hear what was done to America during the Clinton Administration..not by a long shot. I won't comment on HJ. I can feel my blood pressure doubling. If you have admiration for strong women, get Noonie Fortin's Book, Women at Risk..We also Served. You'll read about strong women. mg