Loopy, on the Palestinian issue, your statement, even if it is correct, is not relevant. Most Palestinians are not radical Muslims. Their objective is simply to have their own self-governing state.

DougR and the rest who don't know if that site can be trusted, I have run across several sites giving the same or similar information. Most of them are by Jewish organizations. Some of the organizations who maintain these sites are rather strict Jewish sects. I chose the one I did because it doesn't represent any one sect. But this group is hardly the only one who is providing information of this sort.

Another resource that would be worthwhile checking out would be the words of the founding fathers of Zionism themselves. Do a google search on Jabotinsky, and read the stuff that he wrote himself.

I like what the Jews for Justice site suggests for people to do about it. They think that by getting real about the history of Israel, the situation there can be healed and both Israel and Palestine can release themselves from this death spiral they're in. And then they can both move forward in cooperation. Kind of like they're doing in South Africa.

Personally, I can't imagine why anybody would object to that.