One more thing. You said "It is the group identity/ loyalty aspect I find most unfortunate, whether on this forum or anywhere else." Isn't what you did a prime example of the damage group identity/loyalty can lead to when people get defensive about their group?

Yes exactly.

I posted a response to the message on r.m.f. The poster could have explained, if they wished. They did not really need to Jeri as you seem to know exactly what he meant, or did not mean to say and have also assumed the strength of my (over) reaction.

Shambles, what sort of "discussion" did you expect?

Pretty much this one, the usual Mudcat range of views.

As I said it was not the most worthy of posts. Enough.