Donal everything you have point out proves that Roy Keane is ahard man - hard tackles, not crying ?!?!?!, taking a head butt. I'm am not denying that he is a hard man. However to take Bullforgs attributes for a captain. I think keane certainly has the talent. However when it comes to Ireland he has none of the other attributes. How can he lead the others when they can't stand the sight of him. Anyone who has played team sports can understand that. Dginity and respect not attributes associated with phrases like "you english c**t". What ever happened the the great put downs by the likes of Mohammed Ali. As I said in my original post I've been following the career of Roy Keane since he moved to England. And I definately think he deserved to go.

Mikey joe