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Thread #48320   Message #725025
Posted By: greg stephens
07-Jun-02 - 03:30 AM
Thread Name: World Cup....the REAL football!
Subject: RE: World Cup....the REAL football!
"soccer" isnt used so much in England anymore. It's public school slang/ university originally.The two rules, Rugby and Association, became known colloquially as Rugger and Soccer by a standard verbal process of producing userfriendly versions of names: Greg Stephens would become "Gregger" or "Greggers, old chap".The "s"addition is more common in the 20th century, just the "er" in the 19th.The doubling up rhyming version was very popular, and is still used ironicallyin Oxbridge in a faux-fogey style. Prince of Wales becomes "Pragger Wagger" and so on. So Aquarian would possibly be Acker, Ackers or AckerWacker.There are no strict rules on how the vowels were handled. I would guess if ice hockey co-existed with ordinary hockey in an English school it would have been called "igger","iggers" or possibly "igger-higger". McGrath's point is very valid, that "football" is the general term for whatever version of the rules are used locally in any culture. The old "whole town" games in Britain were called "football", when playing methods not only included kicking and handling, but also killing opponents with weapons: this became frowned on by the authorities c 1600, and has now largely disappeared. An intermediate form is current in France, where weapons are not used but kungfu kicks on spectators are tolerated.