At the risk of a serious thread creep, I will add that "yes, indeed. I also consider both of those persusions FAIR GAME." While I haven't resorted to nudity, yet, I HAVE greeted them ... speaking in tongues ... in FINNISH! That usually results in a scurryed exit, and shortly thereafter (notice the religious tone) the arrival of the cops. I usually invite them in, we have coffee ... again ... discuss fishing issues ... and then they leave. Six months later, all the bible thumpers start arriving again! Go Figgure!. (says Bob, at the risk of serious thread creep ... ot maybe I AM the thread creep) Bob