Gargoyle: I don't wish to become embroiled in any on-going argument, but you quote "Pride comes before the fall".
Is this a comment on lions in the approach to Autumn ? or is it a misquote of a popular misquote ?
Usually quoted as "Pride goeth before a fall" is a contraction of the original.
Proverbs 16:18
"Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before a fall." (King James Version)

Cheers

Nigel