I just retired (in March) from 30-odd (and I DO mean odd) years as a Graphic Artist/Designer/Lackey in marketing and promotion. I've also taught Art (and art) and loved teaching (university level) but hated the politics and the rotten pay. I have both BA and MA from San Francisco State where I minored in Geology (really!) and in Student Uprising (for which I received numerous bumps, bruises and a few stiches). I've played "semi-professionally" in "outfit" owned establishments in Chicago but also made artificial Christmas trees, worked as a security supervisor for Pinkerton's and the Bechtel Corporation and even sold vacuum cleaners and worked in a Fosters restaurant. I am an amateur photographer and desert lover (Eastern California/Western Nevada - high) and travel as much as income allows. Next summer I'll be working up in Yellowstone, hopefully as a "Trail ride musician". I'm a kinda biker, riding an Indian Chief and also a "bikie" riding a Trek.

This is fun! I have found (in my travels) that the best way to get "into" a place you are interested in knowing more about is to ask people you meet what they do for a living. We love to talk about ourselves. Some of the stories that I have heard "on the road" are just amazing.

Thanks Jerry, as usual you seem to be able to get to the heart of things.

CB