Yeah, I think the beat movement was pretty much over by then. Bob Nelson (Deckman) and I were barnstorming in the San Francisco Bay area in 1959, and we hit a few of the places where the beats hung out. Poetry and jazz, usually in combination, was the thing. I'm not sure why they held folk music in such low esteem, but all you needed to do to get someone to roll their eyes was mention that you were a folk singer.

Most people tend to use "beat" and "hippie" interchangeably, which leads to a lot of confusion, but there was a philosophical difference. Hippies often gravitated to folk music, but the beats rarely, if ever.

Don Firth