gee...I have had funeral food twice in the last 3 weeks... In both cases right after attending services and hearing assurances that the departed was in Heaven, waiting. I, of course, said nothing at any point to contradict those who were comforted by the thought.

Why do I make my points in here?..Well, the question was asked.

oh...I missed a point in my response to Little Hawk...he said
" Why is it that very well educated and thoroughly rational scientists...like Albert Einstein and Charles Darwin and Aurobindo Ghose...had no trouble believing in both God AND logic? In both God AND evolution? In both God AND physics? In both God AND science? In both material existence AND spiritual existence?"

...and the answer is that they had something in their lives and thoughts that inclined them to believe..*shrug*....and of course, the 'reply', as distinguished from the 'answer', is that I can point to many equally distinguished, well educated, rational scientists who cannot believe those things.

Calling on witnesses for YOUR side proves nothing when the entire dispute is based on hypothesis!...The word is 'belief'...and if you say you have 'seen' it or 'know' it, I ask why I and others cannot see it, and why this knowlege is not universal.

I'm sorry, folks, but I need a bit more than your confidence and assurance ..*smile*...and if in the end, YOU are right, well, I shall be MOST peeved that it was made so difficult for ALL to see...