thanks for the tup about the post offise oaklet, i think they called transco now or something, I will go tommorrow, I am going to harpmakers house now for music lessun 9he is music teecher), no i remember they are called insignia, i think.If you see any writing " Barclies bank is big rip off" you now it is me.I like to use my own bog, because no bog- roll at werk, 9they dont use it, i think they pour water on their arse or something).i will go post office tommorrrow.Cheers.john