You may not actually realise it but I'm a bit of a PTH fan. I think that what you do is great and I'm not being at all precious the singers I try to discourage at our session are those who think they can sing but can't (one example had the entire pub in an uproar and was embarrasing herself so was asked not to sing but we tollerated her for three sessions before pulling the plug). I've been around a long time too and I've seen the errosion of good manners both here and abroad, but it dosn't mean we have to tollerate it.

And I don't think that you've got the message at all in fact I think that you are missing the point completely.

I will restate: there are lots of different session some sing arounds, some mixed and some musicians sessions, all are welcome to ours but because of the origional intentions of the session i.e. to allow something different (how many scottish sessions in england do you know of). The session, as all sessions, has changed and as such it is a great melting pot of styles and that is great. But the point is that it is a musicians session that WELCOMES (I repeat WELCOMES) occasional singers. SO tell me whats wrong with that?