I suggest listening to a proper programme - i.e. Radio Four. Recent programmes included "Songs From The Sea Bed" which dealt with instruments and music from the times of Henry V111. When the Mary Rose was resurrected, there were found to be instruments on board which included the shawm (shaum?) The musicians on the programme played tunes from the times which I recorded. I repeat - listen to a real programme - you'll find trad. music is not rubbished. HelenJ.