Right Genie, but the hard part of this obviously is that the "porn" threads, as you refer to them, are ones where the subjects of denigration have been exlusively women. That does complicate the matter beyond "consensus" for adult sexual material for some people.No one in these threads has suggested that there be no sexual content in our discussions, whether BS or on-topic. What I do hear some people saying is that when many individual men cross the line of socially acceptable frank discussion, to the extent that paddymac and others did in the shaving female genitalia thread. As someone pointed out (Peg I think), a discussion of men trimming their beards isn't comparable.