In their dreams! Leeej! Do you know how long it's been since I stuffed MY toes in any gd, Madison Avenue, twisted and tortuous, patriarchal idea of footwear? And, stretch pants??? All they stretch is the imagination; imagining the flesh which gets let loose at the end of the day, unfettered and free to hang about or not whereever gravity takes it! Aaarrgggghhhhhhh!!! Death to all fascist/fashion designers!!! *****BIG, BIG GRIN!!!!!*****katlaughingMAO!!