This is all very sad, very sad indeed (and no doubt I will be attacked for saying that). If we can't agree to disagree then we're stuffed and whats the point anyway? I am truly sorry that so many people have taken offense to this and other threads. For my part I am sorry if any contributions I have made may have caused offense. I am however not sorry that there is a difference between male and female perceptions, about what amuses us etc. I have been the victim of male bashing on many occasions - working (when I do) in a predominantly female area of work and I know what its like to be on the recieving end. It still makes me feel sad. Now fuck off the lot of you and do something more constructive with your time!!