well, well, Roy, lose some stars? Sorry to hear about that sort of thing. I liked people there but it lacked some breadth and tolerance, for me, and again, good call linking me here. I'll have to throw some support, I support MENC without saying anything at all there. And I read a stated refusal to cave to policing pressures here that I admired.

No Mary, my dad was Jim Wayne Miller, a writer, and I often introduce myself as his son because he was nicer, smarter, more use than I, and people loved him all over the place. Your Jim Miller sounds good too. My son is a Jim Miller, and the nicest little guy in the world--what's in that name? Where are you, hereabouts? Juneau the capitol of Alaska?

Fred