Kim C, how much information do you have? I'm just relying on my memory, when I was a kid and shortly after Butch Cassidy came out, I looked through books on outlaws and found the Miller bros. My dad dug out some geneology that only said they were rumored to have been in the James gang, but there was a Pinkerton photo of Clell (?) in a chair with a bullethole in his head, and he looks exactly like my uncle Joe, just smaller. Since then we have more extensive stuff, but I haven't got into it much. I was misremembering Dennis, I could have it wrong--can you tell me anything else? My e-mail is Mtmesis@wmconnect.com if you have a minute or two. anyway, thanks, I've been telling it wrong.