Maggie, you might also check out some of the verses of "The Joys Of Love." And, dig out your copy of the first record that Cynthia Gooding recorded. I can't recall the ballad title, but it absouluty speaks to this topic. It's only four lines and, as a dimly recall, the liner notes mentioned that it was the 'oldest' ballad known. This was recorded in the mid fifties. Perhaps some other mudcatter can help with this title. I'll ask Don about this song.CHEERS, Bob