Not wishing to want to start thread creep and appear a creep I think Eliza should be appluaded for sticking her name on and giving her view, the majority of us hide behind pseudonyms. The T&S experience has only just recently become, to the best of my knowledge an annual event, did it not once reside over the river in the Duke of York? I have sung in that room with none of the people who have appeared now there, there was 10 of us my friend who was a tad shy lost his singing virginity!!!!how the times change. Am I and my kids invited in next year? Keith