Helen, I just looked at the Joe line and that IS what I've been using; it didn't work for things IN THE MUDCAT. In the html stuff thread there is a posting with a huge "Muligan" in it with an explanation of how to link another file on the same server, called relative linking; it's the address for that that I am not getting right.When I went to the thread for the Agincourt Carol, I copied the address, then pasted it in, but it didn't work. Every other time I've done that it worked. I am going to try it in here so I don't muck up the song title thread anymore. Here goes, alhtough I don't think it's going to work. The relative linking example I have doesn't have the http and www in it: