This thread was about war and peace and the future of the planet, and it turns off in the direction of which second-rater was worse than the other second raters.

The evil thing with Clinton was the way he seemed to use miltary actions as a way of keeping the press off his trail, when they were getting too close, because of his personal failings. The good thing was that at least he didn't see himself as some kind of Captain America figure strutting around the world stage, at a time when the enemy had melted away.

The pity was a ewasted opportunity to use that maybe never-to-be-repeated moment of opportunity to help turn the world in a direction away from hate and greed, and towards cooperation and sanity. And he may even have had qualities that could have done that.

Well, it's gone now. Maybe the best we can hope for is that some new balance of terror will stabilise things so that maybe they don't explode. It's a shame.