sure the world after 9/11 may appear to be a scary place but its peanuts compared to what our parents & grandparents went through. How many people on this forum have ever been in a war? you can make your moralistic judgments on whether war is murder but it comes down to this: if your country is invaded and you defend yourself, are you murdering your invaders? the Danes or Poles for instance didnt have much choice in wwii as the Nazis overran them. When I was a kid my I watched Russian tanks surround my home town, after 750,000 Russian and warsaw pact troops invaded my country.the fact is no matter how peace loving you may be, in a war you either die for your country or preferably make someone poor bastard die for his. (and Taliesin or Merlin or whatever ) War is not exclusive to Europe.