Sorry about "hillbilly", couldn't think of a better term. What struck me at the time -- in the 60's -- was that the roads were coming in to parts of Ontario that had dirt roads or less before, and there were people in shacks and up on hillsides doing what you would expect people in Appalachia to do. Very isolated, but also religious, and prone to barn dancing, etc. What I couldn't remember was ever meeting anyone who played an instrument or sang local songs -- there was the occasional piano in the better off houses. Certainly they were virtually all Scots-Irish. They would be snowed in 3-4 months of the year. I wondered if they had emigrated to North America too late in the cycle to start their own mutation of the earlier songs -- the kind of thing you get in Nova Scotia, or much earlier, in Quebec. It sounds, after all this, as if (apart from the Ottawa Valley), I was mostly right. yours, Peter T.