hmmm..... I'm still on the iMac and tried using Explorer as the browser instead of Netscape and it makes Mudchat (and some other things) not appear on the pull down menu and the text of the thread is squashed on the left margin. Mudcat looks great on the Mac in Netscape except that I can't get the chat room to function once I am in. Thanks, Max and all. Wonders never cease around here.