The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #52007   Message #800344
Posted By: SharonA
10-Oct-02 - 10:52 AM
Thread Name: BS: Traveller Discrimination in the US 3
Subject: RE: BS: Traveller Discrimination in the US 3
Ron Olesko says, "...the connection of her hands to the child CANNOT be seen on the tape..." At one point in the tape, before Martha moves to the back seat of the SUV, Madelyn's hand can clearly be seen holding and shaking the child.

In addition, one can see by the movement of Madelyne's body the force she used with each blow (whether slap or punch, it's still a blow). Some have theorized that she was hitting the seat and not the child, but that is contradicted by Madelyne's own statements.

Ron also says, "IF she is an abuser then the child should be removed.   HOWEVER, there is no HARD evidence to that effect..." The videotape is, in fact, hard evidence that she abused her child that day. If by "an abuser" Ron means a habitual abuser, then additional hard evidence is needed... which is why Madelyne's past behavior and the home environment in which she's been raising Martha – and the Traveler connection is part and parcel of that environment – are being investigated before Martha is returned to Madelyne's custody! Let's not forget, too, that abuse takes many forms, so even if there is no further evidence that Madelyne physically struck her daughter, there may or may not be hard evidence that Martha was abused in other ways (such as verbally, emotionally or psychologically).