So what do they do Guest go down the terrorist route there are as many loyalists of the same opinion de we let them fight it out or admit that terrorism is not the answer. The threat of do what we want or we'll go back to violence makes my case terrorists are terrorist brit speak or not.

SF needs to prove that is not the way and do what the Irish politicians want, get rid of the private army. Or will they be used in the event of a united Ireland when SF do not get their way. Or maybe bring in the republican national youth you threaten N.I with.

You have not paid much attention to what I have posted if you come to the conclusion that I advocate this. " To suggest that Adams and McGuiness' IRA membership should preclude their participation in a post-war democracy is sheer idiocy"

I see it has led to jump to the old prejudices which has led to your inaccurate conclusions. I for one am in favour of a united Ireland but not at any cost. I have no time for terrorists or those who support them or excuse their existence. Mandella condemned his terrorist past cut off all ties to that past and recognised that path was wrong.

Your defending spying is way off the mark,you know my views on that if you have read my posts.

Your parallels with the Israeli and Palestinian has one flaw, SF got what they wanted, they got into government, they were doing good, but they slipped up. As you say Israel did not give back the Gazza and West bank, what you do not mention is the use of terrorists which has not improved the situation it has inflamed it. This shows terrorism does not work on any level as people will dig their heels in which results in going nowhere.