Thanks again for your wisdom Kevin Mc.G.

Our bold fenian Guest has a bit o' the nerve calling *Ireland* the troll, here. But apparently *hasn't* got the gonads to sign up & introduce himself here as Ireland did.

Btw since the subject of a (not implausible) segregationist White Citizens Council/Orange Order analogy was introduced: sure; but then it wasn't the the Scots-Irish Presbyterians who conducted anti-draft riots & lynchings of blacks in NYC in 1864 rather than answer Father Abraham's call to fight against slavery. Those were my green "Catholic" (loosely speaking) ancesters by God; and *they* didn't have the testosterone to sign up, either. Or, more likely, the motivation. There's plenty of historical guilt to go around. Everywhere. Including, very obviously, in England.

Ard Mhacha, I think a careful reading shows that nobody here is trying to "make out a case for the Unionists". I gather we're all for a united 32-county Irish Republic. Some of us are just trying to make out the case that that can't come until there's a recognition of the good and the ill on both sides, east and west of the Bann.

As for Reagan and Bush, A.M.: *I* didn't vote fer 'em. Must have been some of the *other* Meander-thal Nuts over here who did. Of course in the case of Bush *II*, a plurality of us Wandering-Aengus crackpots voted for the other guy. The cardboard one. But he lost. In was those Tranfer Votes in Florida y'see. Disproportional Representation of Butterfly Ballots & Bushies y'know. Yes, Republican has a whole different meaning here. // But just in case you mean that we Yanks should mind our own business: yeah, we should. But why start Now? :)