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Thread #52446   Message #806067
Posted By: GUEST
18-Oct-02 - 09:57 AM
Thread Name: BS: Northern Ireland Mess
Subject: RE: BS: Northern Ireland Mess
If it weren't for NORAID there would be no Macbride principles, no political influence for the Irish American Congressional caucus, and without those political pressures, no American involvement under Clinton and Mitchell. Without Mitchell, there would have been no peace process. I get pretty damn fed up with the British propaganda line that all Irish Americans who support the nationalist community are romantic idiots with no political knowledge and acumen regarding the north. And when people in forums like this one, where the vast majority of posters ARE bloody ignorant of the facts, start agreeing with the Britspeak propaganda line about Irish Americans, I know the Brits have won again. And again. And again. Just use the good ole "T" word with the word "Irish" and dumb fuck Americans fall for it every time.

Gandhi was a terrorist in the British colonial worldview too, folks. The terrorists are anyone who holds a dissenting point of view from the majoritarian politicians Ireland claims are "the mainstream", remember? Like Mr. Ireland says, if the fascist wing of Fine Gael and Fianna Fail and the fascist Unionists and Loyalists, and even the bloody Labourites in power all say so, it must be true, right?

As to anyone who would claim in an internet forum to have been disabled by the IRA while involved in an argument where they are painting the IRA negatively, well...some of us know that tired old dirty trick. It is precisely that sort of behavior, along with the fact that this "Ireland" person has posted almost exclusively (and quite prolifically) about his anti-IRA political agenda since joining on 6 Oct, that fits my definition of a classic troll. He joins up so he can't be attacked for being anonymous (and therefore meet the idiotic definition of a troll in lesser Mudcat minds), acts according to the Mudcat friendly mode (which can be sussed out in under five minutes) and begins to ingratiate himself to a few people here, and then bloody claims he was put in a wheelchair by the IRA. Right.

Same old unionist shit one sees all the time on the internet. Somebody is trying to get the Mudcat to go down in flames over this old saw horse.