You do realise Mc G of H that I treat these posts just as what they are a discussion with no agendas, plain and simple exchanging of view points that in the real world would be lost among other such conservations and carry the same weight.

No real changes will come about from what you, JimmyC ,pooka, Tim, Ard and I post, it is just our views nothing more, I see no need in getting hot under the collar and personally offensive. Ard has come up with some crackers, done and dusted, being one,I do not think deep down he is being vicious, it comes across as a laugh to me not a personal attack, can we not keep it this way?

If mudcatters do not want me to continue posting say so and I'll leave,I do not want to be used as an excuse for the vile personal attacks that guest takes upon him/herself to expose other mudcatters to.

Back to :

I believe we would never get to the state of civil breakdown.

Lets face it the event of a total civil breakdown and its consequences can only be looked at hypothetically, but that is not to say it is not the basis for a good discussion. We comment from our own perspective and in doing so if we agree all the time it would be boring.

What is the role of the Irish government within the GFA, my point is if the Irish army is seen as legitimate among Nat/Rep then they have to accept their authority, either as recognised legitimate army or as a UN peace keeping force. Either way there would be no room for any paramilitary group.

The other rep/nat terrorist groups would be neither here nor there as they do not have the same support that the IRA have and are not seen as being anywhere near as influential as the unionists see the IRA. If people do change from one to the other (IRA to RIRA) then I see that as being disingenuous about the peace process and the sticking to the old ways,in other words using the RIRA as a threat to get their own way.

Just as Adams asks unionists to trust him that should be reciprocated wrt to the unionist who are 100% pro GFA, the loyalist crowd would get short shrift if they are the only protagonists left, security resources which are split between the two sides could then concentrate on those who are a threat to the peace process.

I recognise asking people to trust each other is easier said then done someone has to take the first step.