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Thread #52717   Message #808626
Posted By: GUEST,Richie
22-Oct-02 - 01:02 PM
Thread Name: Origin: Johnny Come Down to Hilo
Subject: RE: Origin: Johnny Come Down to Hilo
Masato- Good connection with Emmett. I suspected this was a similar song.

Charley- I had found two references to a Josey/Josie as an undergarment. Both were unsubstantiated and one (when contacted by Guest in the Jim Along Josey post) admitted it was not based on fact.
Look at the Jim Along Josey thread.

Is it possible that "in some of these Hilo shanties it was not a port, either in Hawaii or Peru, to which they were referring? Sometimes the word was a substitute for a 'do', a 'jamboree', or even a 'dance'. And in some cases the word was used as a verb--to 'hilo' somebody or something. In this sense its origin and derivation is a mystery." From Previous Post by Mark Cohen.

This seems more likely to be the origin of the term, "Hilo" "Shiloh"
"Shallow" etc.

Is perhaps "Limber Jim" a sea shanty also that is mixed with the
"Martin Said To His Man," registered in 1588, type songs-Kitty Alone, Johnny Fool, Hurrah, Lie!, The Bed-time Song, Who's the Fool Now?, Old Blind Drunk John, Fooba-Wooba John? The songs are mostly nonsense songs with animals. Perhaps Turtle Old Man can check into this.

-Richie