Sounds like Bill and Ferrara might need to upgrade. I don't know how many times I told Bill that running Windows 3.1 on his 40Mhz IBM clone meant the rest of the world would soon leave him behind. Of course his 12.2 Baud Modem meant he can turn out two or three of his wooden creations while he waits for those 100+ threads to load. At least he could get some work done in the midst of his Mudcat addiction. **grin**

Big RiB