thank you everyone who expressed positive or neutral sentiments or sat this one out.    And to those who just went shopping...that is perfectly fine too. But I think one, and I am willing to drop it to one, this one, day a year to at least not abuse veterans is a very good idea. Drive on. If you want a good song, find the one Kipling wrote about when you go to London town grieving, grieving, take your flowers and lay them down at the wall of grieving. (not celebrating by the way)....you can sing this to one of the Banorie tunes..mg