I wish that either we'd all stop rising to 'guest' threads which bait us from the shadows.....OR that we'd ALL drop the cookie and respond as 'guest' and show just how ridiculous it is to try to construct a meaningful debate when you don't know how many 'guests' there are.

I repeat...for the 2126th time, it is NOT necessary to be a member with a cookie...just be SOME identity with continuity! It is quite rude to toss heavy topics into a group from a cloak of anonymity.