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Thread #53820   Message #831489
Posted By: Richie
21-Nov-02 - 07:55 AM
Thread Name: Lyr Req: Hook and Line (and related songs)
Subject: RE: Lyr. Req: Hook and Line
Thanks Stewie, Any other lyrics or info on "Jackfish" or "Hook and Line" or "Shout Lula"?

Here's a bit of info mainly from Ceolas and Folk Song index on Roustabout-

ROUSTABOUT: "Shout Lu/Lulu," "Shout Little Lulu/Lulie." Old-Time, Breakdown. USA; southwestern Va, western N.C. C Major/G Major (Dent Wimmer): D Major (Dan Tate). GDGD. AABB. Ancient sounding African-American banjo song sometimes played on a gut-string fretless gourd banjo.

The tune is known as a banjo song and employs a special tuning on that instrument: gCGBD or "Standard-C", "Single-C", "Drop-C","C-tuning" Used to be one of the most widely used banjo tunings, and is a "standard" in bluegrass as well as old-time music. C-tuning was the basis for most of the 19th century banjo methods and the written banjo literature. Nowadays, many old-time pickers use "Double-C" for tunes that were formerly more often heard in "Standard-C" (e.g. Mississippi Sawyer, Soldier's Joy, Arkansas Traveler, Turkey in the Straw, to name a few in the canon). Tuned up to D, this becomes aDAC#E.

How can you be so mean to me,
Been so good to you.
Wish to the Lord I'd never been born,
Died when I was so young;
Never be here to eat this salty meat,
Or hear your lying tongue.
Who's Gonna shoe your pretty white foot,
Who's gonna glove your hand;
Who's gonna kiss your ruby red lips,
When I'm in a far off land.
Papa will shoe my pretty white feet,
Mama will glove my hand;
Nobody's gonna kiss my ruby red lips,
'Till you return again. (Tom Carter & Blanton Owen)

Sources: Fuzzy Mountain String Band (North Carolina), who had the tune from Gaither Carlton {d. 1972} (Deep Gap, N.C.) [Brody, Spandaro]. Brody (Fiddler's Fakebook), 1983; pg. 236. Spandaro (10 Cents a Dance), 1980; pg. 32. Heritage XXXIII, Dan Tate (Fancy Gap, Va.) - "Visits" (1981). Kicking Mule 213, Susan Cahill- "Southern Clawhammer Banjo." Rounder 0035, Fuzzy Mountain String Band- "Summer Oaks and Porch" (1973). Rounder 0057, Dent Wimmer (Payne's Creek section, Floyd County, Va.) - "Old Originals, Vol. 1" (1978. Learned from the Smith boys {John, Dink, and Dan} of Green Creek, Va.).

REcording info: Roustabout (Related To - Shout Lulu)
1. Cahill, Susan. Southern Clawhammer, Kicking Mule KM 213, Cas (1978), cut#A.07
2. Cockerham, Fred. More Clawhammer Banjo, County 717, LP (1969), cut# 2
3. Creed, Kyle. New River Jam: One, Mountain 308, LP (197?), cut# 15
4. Creed, Kyle. 39th National Folk Festival, NCTA NCTA 77, LP (1977), cut#A.03
5. Creed, Kyle. Liberty, Heritage (Galax) 028 (XXVIII), LP (1977), cut#B.05 (Roust-a-bout)
6. Fuzzy Mountain String Band. Summer Oaks and Porch, Rounder 0035, LP (197?), cut# 5
7. Holt, David. It Just Suits Me, June Appal JA 0038, LP (1981), cut# 12
8. Roberts, Dink. Black Banjo Songsters of North Carolina and Virginia, Smithsonian SF 40079, CD (1998), cut#28
9. Tate, Dan. Visits, Heritage (Galax) 033, LP (1981), cut# 12
10. Tenenbaum, Molly. And the Hillsides Are All Covered with Cakes, Cat Hair, Cas (1994), cut# 11
11. Wimmer, Dennis O. "Dent". Old Originals, Vol. 1, Rounder 0057, LP (1978), cut# 4

I also asked about the Roustabout Song - Bustin, Dillon.
1. Paton, Caroline and Sandy. New Harmony, Folk Legacy FSI-100, LP (1987), cut# 10.

Sandy Paton- Any info on Roustabout Song?

-Richie