Well, obviously we must agree to disagree. Sorry you felt I was insulting you or ranting. But it still appears to me that you are falling into an ethnocentric trap. You recognize Christian teachings of peace as an ideal, but not the same teachings of peace in Judaism. Fundamentalists of any creed seem to pay a lot of lip-service to tradition while failing to uphold it. Christianity hasn't been pacifist as a general rule (although some sects are) since the Roman era.

Having been on the receiving end of some of those "peaceful" Christian values, I'm not inclined to share your views about how much more violent the other religions are. It's a little more clear to me that the views of one group are not necessarily representative of a whole religion. I kinda doubt your average group of Methodists, Mormons or Mennonites would have put me in the hospital.

Other than that here's hoping that the more enlightened souls
in *both* Faiths acheive ascendancy and demonstrate the better angels of their respective Faiths and tribal identities they draw from them.
Fair enough?
I pray for Peace.;-)

Heartily agreed -- except I'd say *all three* faiths. Plus throw in some of the Hindu radicals... and the list goes on.

On to more scholarly subjects, Incidentally, I did a little research and came up with ONE (the only?) pacificist Islamic leader. He was one of the founders of Pakistan -- ironically, both India and Pakistan have non-violent pioneers in their history.   Abdul Ghaffar Khan, a Pashtun living in British India, founded the Khudai Khidmatgar, a movement which eventually gained 100,000 members, many of which were eventually slaughtered by the Indian (British) Army until the army refused to shoot them any more because they just stood there and let them kill them. Khan was a comtemporary of Ghandi and involved in the same cause, and the even toured together to promote peace in the 1940's. Khan didn't leave any writings, unlike Ghandi, so the fundamentalists in Pakistan are doing a good job of writing him out of history, and of course in India Ghandi is the hero.

Who knew? They didn't teach that in my elementary school, although we learned all about Ghandi.

P.S. I wasn't quoting because we were the only ones talking, so it seemed a little redundant to me.