There was a definite obscurity about how he spoke, he seems to be trying to obtain as much revenue as possible through the new license, and be as vague as possible as to who should pay it ,and who might be given exemption. He seemed to pooh-pooh the idea of small acoustic ensembles being outlawed, choirs or sessions, and yet does not state definitively how and who will decide on what is allowed. As a politician he is keeping all his options open, he may yet persuade many pubs and churches to pay their fee, when it may not be neccessary. The government needs as much extra revenue as it can get at present.