Exactly, Nicloe. That's what I meany when I said earlier that an Enron here and a Worldgate there and all of a sudden ya' gotta a couple a million retiree's in a pickle. And then what? Well, if it got bad enough, like seein' old folks put on the street then society would say, "Hey, that's mean!" and would fix it! How? Yeah, another Social Security reorganization and we're back to where we are today, except Boss Hog and his kids got by without paying in for all those years.

Like I've siad over and over. Ya' ain't gonna fix nuthin' with leeches! And the wealthy are leeches now because so much of their income is not subject to SS with-holding where the working classes is pretty much 100% subject to SS with-holding. That is regressive. Usually the ruling class is happy with any tax that is regressive but like I've pointed out, the Rush Limbaugh's have kept the ruling class at odds with the concept of Social Security with no apparent reasoning other than the usual *socialism* rhethoric.

That's why we won't be hearing from Doug, or Teribus, troll or any of the other folks with that "compassionate conservative" badge on their lapels. If they were truely "passionate conservatives" then they would be arguing the same points that you and I are... but on this one, they don't have a clue.

Plus, after you take a few layers of rhetoric off the issue, they are just plainly....wrong. Or purdy rich and mean spirited! Or both.

Bobert