...oh, and I've had some time to think about it (gotta type fast -- the wife's got the beaters going on my icing now!) and I've got another way of framing the concept...

...here's my challenge/bet.

I bet that DougR could type a description of "liberal" (USA-style)philosophy that more liberals here would 1. agree with, 2. not be offended by the characterization, and/or 3. have much less to add for clarification, than any liberal on this discussion forum could similarly type describing a "conservative" (USA-style) philosophy.

And of course I am talking about Philosophy -- not politics.

good-natured challenge of course.