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Thread #55055   Message #856261
Posted By: McGrath of Harlow
31-Dec-02 - 05:38 PM
Thread Name: BS: US torture
Subject: RE: BS: US torture
I wasn't "justifying" the Taliban, just pointing outr tat its constitutinbal status wasn't that much duifferent from a lot of other regimes. The reasons for being opposed to its actions does not rest on that, but on the actions themselves.

Adopting terrorist tactics because the people you are fighting use them does not stop them being terrorist tactics. Everybody who uses terrorist tactics would justify it on the ground that this is the only way or the best way to fight an opponent which cannot be beaten in any other way.

"People who are willing to use any means to murder children, mothers and fathers" - there is no shortage of these on any side in a modern war. Whether it is actually an effective way of waging war in the long run is questionable, as is the question of whether torture is an effective technique. For example, it seems highly likely that carpet bombing of German cities lengthened the last war by stiffening resustance. Bombing atrocities by the IRA probably had the same effect on the British Government and people.

The same is true about torture. Even on purely pragmatic grounds it does more harm than good to those who go in for it.

You justify torture, you justify terrorism. Facilis descensus Averno.