The Mudcat Café TM
Thread #55309   Message #864561
Posted By: Little Hawk
11-Jan-03 - 02:10 PM
Thread Name: BS: Any conservatives on Mudcat?
Subject: RE: BS: Any conservatives on Mudcat?
Jimmy - You hit on the crux of the matter right there..."somehow, this system (socialist) works there because the people of Denmark are remarkable people in their value systems. If we had similar things here in the states, the corruption would be unbelievable, because we don't have the family systems they have."

Right on! That is why I like to live at certain spiritual communities (which normally function in something rather like pure socialism)...because of the very high moral and ethical standard of the people. Their level of good conscious intention and taking full responsibility for their actions is remarkable.

Obviously, one has to establish a good consciousness in people from the time they are young children to achieve this. It requires parents who are already in that good state of consciousness. This can be done either within or outside of a "religion", but it isn't being done very much in general society. Rather, people are looking for how to "win" (often at someone else's expense). In a real community things are done in such a way that everyone wins, if at all possible.

It would be very hard to change American society as a whole...because inertia is such a powerful thing, and the dysfunctional past tends to repeat itself. My solution is to seek out particular groups of people whom I have more in common with, and to choose my friends on that basis as well. I get quite frustrated with mainstream society, as I think you know.

You see, a dishonest or lazy person wouldn't stay long at such a spiritual community as I've alluded to. He would feel very uncomfortable and he would leave...or he would avoid the place in the first place...or it would change him radically, if he chose to stay. I've seen the odd example of the latter case, but they are rare.

- LH