I hate to resurrect this discussion, but it's been festering in me since I posted to this thread ... while I may get irritated by the way some folks post anonymously, and demonize points of view opposed to their own from that anonymity - I am no better when I use the F word in defining the annonomous poster's character and liken them to our least attractive body part! My apologies to my fellow Mudcatters and GUESTS alike, for an argument very poorly phrased.