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Thread #56559   Message #895013
Posted By: Teribus
21-Feb-03 - 05:33 AM
Thread Name: BS: Should the Uk & US go to war with Iraq?
Subject: RE: BS: Should the Uk & US go to war with Iraq?
Don asked me the following question:

"Teribus, what do you think George W. Bush would insist on doing if UN inspectors were to find similar facilities in Iraq?

Don Firth"

If UN inspectors were to find similar facilities in Iraq? - If they were exactly the same in condition, purpose and intent - George W. Bush and the rest of the world (particularly Saddam's closest neighbours) would be extremely relieved and would do nothing.

Absolutely everything you have posted relating to the US having an operational CB warfare capability actually proves the reverse when you read the content - That has been my contention from the onset of this dialogue:

"The United States stockpile of unitary lethal chemical warfare munitions consists of various rockets, projectiles, mines, and bulk items containing blister agents (mustard H, HD, HT) and nerve agents (VX, GB). About 60% of this stockpile is in bulk storage containers; 40% is stored in munitions, many of which are now obsolete. The stockpile is stored at eight sites throughout the Continental US (Edgewood Chemical Activity, MD; Anniston Chemical Activity, AL; Blue Grass Chemical Activity, KY; Newport Chemical Depot, IN; Pine Bluff Chemical Activity, AR; Pueblo Chemical Depot, CO; Deseret Chemical Activity, UT; and Umatilla Chemical Depot, OR) and at one site outside of the Continental US on Johnston Atoll."

As it says above in the text 60% bulk (i.e. not weaponised, hence cannot be used offensively), 40% in munitions much of which is obsolete. That I have cross-checked and found that out of the lists of munitions stored at the sites listed the only munitions that could possibly be used, provided the gun systems are compatible (which I would doubt) are the 155mm shells. The inventory dated in 1997 shows that no CB land mines remain, M55 Rockets (obsolete), 105mm shells (obsolete) - the hardware that was supposed to have fired this stuff disappeared from the US Army shortly after the end of the Vietnam war. The CB stocks on Johnstone Island had been totally destroyed by the time of the 1997 report - Audited, verified fact.

"In 1985, the Congress passed Public Law 99-145 directing the Army to destroy the US stockpile of obsolete chemical agents and munitions. Recognizing that the stockpile program did not include all chemical warfare materiel requiring disposal, the Congress directed the Army in 1992 to plan for the disposal of materiel not included in the stockpile. This materiel, some of which dates back as far as World War I, consists of binary chemical weapons, miscellaneous chemical warfare materiel, recovered chemical weapons, former production facilities, and buried chemical warfare materiel. In 1992, the Army established the Nonstockpile Chemical Materiel Program to dispose of the materiel."

The sites you continually keep referring to are for the disposal of CB Agents and weapons - that is all and supports what I have contended from the outset.

"In 1993, the United States signed the UN-sponsored Chemical Weapons Convention. In October 1996, the 65th nation ratified the convention making the treaty effective on April 29, 1997. Through ratification, the United States agreed to dispose of its unitary chemical weapons stockpile, binary chemical weapons, recovered chemical weapons, and former chemical weapon production facilities by April 29, 2007, and miscellaneous chemical warfare materiel by April 29, 2002."

So, backed up by material that you, yourself have provided me with, I will say once more that:

"The armed forces of the US and UK have no operational, offensive, Chemical, Biological or Bacteriological weapons or weapons systems"