Guest,graycolorscheme, you really need to look at your sources a lot harder before ranting. As Q pointed out, Saddam doesn't care about religion; Iraq is a secular state. That bit about the professional rapist was addressed on another thread. The booking form said "activity," meaning profession, but was misinterpreted as meaning the activity he was charged with. AS far as quoting Plato's Republic, there really isn't anything in there which is relevant to France. Plato didn't include a representative democracy in his list of governments, and his conclusions are incredibly elitist and restrictive of civil liberties.