yes, perhaps so, McGrath...I believe IN "The Fundamental Principles of the Metaphysic of Morals" (Immanuel Kant) *grin*..ol' Kant thought you could prove that righteous behavior was 'right' without any particular religious authority, and I tend to favor that approach.

If I die and discover that there is an afterlife and 'Heaven', my goal is to get in on merit. Sure would be nice if it happened...I'd LOVE to hear Mahalia Jackson sing again.