Larry - I say again, READ WHAT IS WRITTEN. Not what you want to see. What is there.

Show me where I said that govt's tell the truth? I didn't. I said they don't always lie. You basically implied they always lie in your first post, & explicitly said it in your second. And that is a biased, lying... lie...

Gov'ts do not "always" lie. They frequently tell the truth as they see it, & most of the time (in all fairness), it's not much more inaccurate than the truth that you or I see. I'm a cynical bastard, & I have serious doubts as to whether the US Gov is currently telling much of a truth, hence my several remarks on this board about doing the right thing for the wrong reasons.

Nevertheless, I remain wiser (I hope) than to label people who disagree with me with 'gullible', 'bloodthirsty', or other such insulting or divisive terms. Similarly, ask yourself, who is 'gullible' - the man who does his best to make sense of the confusion & chaos around him, or the one who says that this given source (be it govt, peacenik, ecowarrior, or other appropriate faction) "always lies"?

Your call, Larry...

P.S. In my limited experience, most soldiers, before the fact, are only too happy to fight - it's what they're trained to do. It's the fannying around of idiot politicians that pisses them off, as a rule.